Беседа:Мордовци

Good afternoon. Unfortunately I do not speak Bulgarian and know only separate words from friends. I'm Mokshan and I can assure you there are no Mordvins and they never existed. There are two separate ethnicities Mokshas and Erzyas (Karatais are actually an ethnographic group of Mokshas, Shokshas are considered an ethnographic group of Erzyas but it is disputed as many scientists regard them as a separate ethnicity, so-called Terjukhans are just Russified Erzyas who lived in Teryushevskaya volost of Nizhniy Novgorod gubernia). Mordvin language never existed, two literary languages with respective languge codes do exist: Mokshan (mdf) and Erzyan (myv). We are still beating around the bush with this issue in English wiki due to lack of English language sources on the subject, you can see long discussion regarding this here. I would like to ask you kindly to create separate articles "Мокшанци/Мокшани" and "Ерзянци/Ерзяни" if you want to avoid creation of dead-end articles in future (I mean normally any article on an ethnic group is linked with its language arcticle, its history , etc). Existence of Bulgarian article "Мокшани" is very important for Moksha wiki. English stub article "Mokshas" is still here awaiting for approval. Moksha wiki article is here. As to this article stub "Мордовци" I would suggest to keep it but with respective explanations and links to "Мокшани" and "Ерзяни" . Actually, decision is up to Bulgarian wiki users/admins, so this is not an advise or request, just a proposal re correct articles creation. Благодаря̉ Numulunj pilgae

Basically, this is what our article says. The two separate articles you proposed are not created yet, but probably will be soon. Thank you very much! -- Григор Гачев 20:19, 12 юни 2010 (UTC)

Dear Grigor, I just noticed "Мордовците са народност..." that is why I wrote. Thank you very much for your concern! mdf:User:Numulunj pilgae