Уикипедия:Бот/Заявки/2006
Става въпрос за бота BloodFire. Това е бот, дупликат на стандартния pywikipediabot [1]. Имам намерение да го ползвам единствено в частта му replace.py - т.е. за дребни масови корекции. Тъй като не е необходимо тези корекции да се виждат в последните промени, кандидатствам за бот-флаг. Декларирам, че няма да осъществявам злонамерени промени, извън евентуални грешки на бота (който ще избягвам и контролирам собственоръчно). Корекциите, ще бъдат отбелязвани. Моля, за разрешение за бот-флаг.--BloodIce 23:31, 11 януари 2006 (UTC)
- За--The Engineer 12:04, 12 януари 2006 (UTC)
- За --Webkid 14:54, 12 януари 2006 (UTC)
- За --Спас Колев 15:13, 12 януари 2006 (UTC)
Против
[редактиране на кода]Коментар
[редактиране на кода]I´m really sorry by speaking in English, but unfortunately, I can´t speak your language. I´m es:Usuario:FAR, and I run a bot. Recently, I used it to work on years, and I could see in your wikipedia there was less interwikis in the articles than in other wikis. I can run my bot in several wikipedias, and improve this.
Of course, I´ll do this only if the community agree. I´ve already ask for permission in the meta page. Do you support me or not?
- I haven´t understand in wich page should I answer, so I´ll write my answer to everybody. Yes, I´m a real wikipedian (over 6,000 edition in es:). I´m also a sysop in es:, and I have run my bot for some months.--es:User:FAR 16:22, 12 март 2006 (UTC)
- Thanks. You have an OK from me. (The page was es:Usuario Discusión:FAR, but that's OK). Cheers --Петко 16:27, 12 март 2006 (UTC)
Потребителят es:User:FAR иска разрешение за бот-флаг на сметката Потребител:Further_(bot).
- За. Потребителят е активен уикипедианец на испанската Уикипедия и отговори на es:User talk:FAR на питането ми. Нямам забележки. --Петко 16:30, 12 март 2006 (UTC)
- За Спас Колев 13:58, 14 март 2006 (UTC)
- За --Darsie 15:51, 14 март 2006 (UTC)
В момента ботът работи на три фази, като е малко вероятно на една страница да бъде извършена повече от една редакция по време на трите фази:
- Форматиране на разделителя на хилядите на числа. (100,233 -> 100 233)
- Форматиране на разделителя на дробната част на числа. (10.2 -> 10,2)
- Форматиране с цел избягване на пренасяне. (100 239 -> 100 239)
Фази 1 и 2 не генерираха твърде много редакции, но за фаза 3 се оказва че се очакват значително повече отколкото за първите две фази. Не съм 100% убеден че е необходим бот флаг поради същността на редакциите която изисква постоянно следене, както и поради факта че ботът може да се пуска в ненатоварените части от денонощието, поради това се допитвам до общността. Smartech 04:49, 14 април 2006 (UTC)
- Ботът вече има флаг. Smartech 17:57, 20 април 2006 (UTC)
За бот флаг
[редактиране на кода]- За - дори да е видим, не вярвам друг, освен теб да следи какво прави. --Спас Колев 07:53, 14 април 2006 (UTC)
- За - Мда. Точно така. Сега само пълни последните промени. --Darsie 07:56, 14 април 2006 (UTC)
- За. --Методи Колев 08:00, 14 април 2006 (UTC)
- За. За следенето може да се използва Специални:Contributions/Probe. --Daggerstab 12:16, 14 април 2006 (UTC)
Против бот флаг
[редактиране на кода]Коментари
[редактиране на кода]Ако някой желае да помогне, но няма робот, може да ползва една програмка, която работи в браузъра: вижте на Потребител беседа:Петко/monobook.js. Има няколко предимства пред робота, това, че примерно човек може да провери промените (и ако има грешки, да ги поправи) преди да запише страницата, както и това, че всичките поправки се правят еднократно, само с една редакция, вместо с няколко. --Петко 16:05, 14 април 2006 (UTC)
Hello,
I am a French Wikpedian fr:User:Vargenau (where I am sysop), here User:Vargenau, and I ask for permission to use robot User:Escarbot on your Wikipedia.
This robot will only be used to made interwikis (using pywikipedia interwiki.py).
You can see the interwikis I made as test on Special:Contributions/Escarbot.
I already have bot status on nl: sr: da: ht: fr: pt: is: it: li: sv: sk:
Thank you in advance.
Vargenau 15:29, 25 юни 2006 (UTC)
- За Спас Колев 16:24, 25 юни 2006 (UTC)
- За --Webkid→Беседа 16:34, 25 юни 2006 (UTC)
- За Според мен това е безопасно. BloodIce 11:47, 4 юли 2006 (UTC)
- Ами какво повече трябва да стане, за да му се дате бот-флаг? Нали тогава ще престане да се явява в последните промени?--Phips 00:07, 5 юли 2006 (UTC)
I would like a bot flag to run my interwiki-bot TuvicBot (using Pywikipedia). This bot will run in manually assisted mode, adding and updating interwiki-links, using the Dutch wiki as a starting point. I'm mostly planning to solve interwikis that autonomous bot skip because they're ambigious. (And sorry for not speaking in your language:-() --Tuvic 19:26, 3 юли 2006 (UTC)
- За Спас Колев 07:14, 4 юли 2006 (UTC)
Въздържам се.За. I admire to your noble cause, because every wikipedia needs a human approach to solve some of the interwiki-links. However I am scepticle about this bot. My question is if you do not speak our language (I guess your poorly could read it), how you can be sure in the correctness of your choice. Since if you missincorporated a link, this could damage our list (in the next run of the autonomous bots) I am not convinced to vote for. Regards, BloodIce 11:47, 4 юли 2006 (UTC).- You're right: I can't read your language properly, neither understand it correctly. So if the ambigious interwiki is located here, I would have to make my robot give up on that page. But, however, if someone made a mistake in an interwiki to the Italian wiki, thus creating 2 different wikilinks to Italian articles, I can easily correct this everywere, also on this wiki. I'm also using the graphical aide from the interwikibot. (it creates nice diagrams when there' an ambiguity, see meta:Interwiki graphs) That way I can usually see very fast if where the error is. So if the ambiguity lies here, I'd make my bot give up (I don't have the intention to correct the whole of Wikipedia on my own), but if the error is elsewhere, I can help set is straight, also on this wiki. --Tuvic 14:22, 4 юли 2006 (UTC)
- Personally I find the role of your robot useful, with the respect that you are not going to solve ambiguities from our wikipedia. Thanks for your answer. BloodIce 12:34, 5 юли 2006 (UTC)
- You're welcome. --Tuvic 20:05, 6 юли 2006 (UTC)
- Personally I find the role of your robot useful, with the respect that you are not going to solve ambiguities from our wikipedia. Thanks for your answer. BloodIce 12:34, 5 юли 2006 (UTC)
- If nobody has any objection, I'll start my bot tomorrow. --Tuvic 10:45, 20 юли 2006 (UTC)
- There are no objections. However please ask for a bot flag on meta, before running your bot. Regards, BloodIce 14:32, 20 юли 2006 (UTC)
- Requested on meta now. --Tuvic 15:48, 20 юли 2006 (UTC)
- There are no objections. However please ask for a bot flag on meta, before running your bot. Regards, BloodIce 14:32, 20 юли 2006 (UTC)
- You're right: I can't read your language properly, neither understand it correctly. So if the ambigious interwiki is located here, I would have to make my robot give up on that page. But, however, if someone made a mistake in an interwiki to the Italian wiki, thus creating 2 different wikilinks to Italian articles, I can easily correct this everywere, also on this wiki. I'm also using the graphical aide from the interwikibot. (it creates nice diagrams when there' an ambiguity, see meta:Interwiki graphs) That way I can usually see very fast if where the error is. So if the ambiguity lies here, I'd make my bot give up (I don't have the intention to correct the whole of Wikipedia on my own), but if the error is elsewhere, I can help set is straight, also on this wiki. --Tuvic 14:22, 4 юли 2006 (UTC)
- Then warmly welcome to the "bg.wikipedia.org" project. BloodIce 15:55, 20 юли 2006 (UTC)
- Well, not yet :-). Apparently, there's a local bureaucrat here that has to be asked, and not at Commons. So I left a message at Потребител беседа:Borislav --Tuvic 12:52, 21 юли 2006 (UTC)
- Ok, TuvicBot has bot flag now and will start on this wiki today or tomorrow. Any questions or remarks can always be made at my talk page. --Tuvic 13:32, 21 юли 2006 (UTC)
- Well, not yet :-). Apparently, there's a local bureaucrat here that has to be asked, and not at Commons. So I left a message at Потребител беседа:Borislav --Tuvic 12:52, 21 юли 2006 (UTC)
This bot updates interwikis. It's based on interwiki.py function in pywikipedia and Its owner is Persian[2].
- At the present moment we have at least two bots (YurikBot, BloodFire), which are scaning nearly constantly our wikipedia day and night (and succeed to complete the scan every week). We have also at least 3 bots wich are run from other wikipedias (FelixBot, Further_(bot), Escarbot) and helping us with interwikkies. Recently we added TuvicBot which should be run in interactive mode to solve tricky interwikies. I am quite sceptical for new one, especially for not so big wikipedia as ours. BloodIce 14:32, 23 юли 2006 (UTC)
Още един бот без флаг се е появил, правещ непрестанно интеруикита. Не трябва ли да се процедира/спре?--Phips 20:22, 29 юли 2006 (UTC)
- Да се спре от кого? Нямаме администратори. Оголени сме на фронтовата линия. BloodIce 21:53, 29 юли 2006 (UTC)
За всеки случай го сложих и на сигналната страница. Всъщност не е толкова спешно да се реагира - не вярвам редакциите да вредят на Уикипедия, просто не спазва регламента.--Phips 22:42, 29 юли 2006 (UTC)
- Тоз юнак не спазва линия на поведение и в румънската и в турската уикипедия, и си пита ушите в беседата. Аз лично в този случай съм против присъствието му. За разлика от другия холански бот (TuvicBot), Thijs!bot не е сред комуникативните (за сега). BloodIce 22:49, 29 юли 2006 (UTC)
- Hello, I see there is some discussion about my bot. BloodIce already requested me to stop it temporarily, as I did. However, my knowledge of Bulgarian is restricted to the Cyrillic alphabet, so I cannot see what the above discussion is about. What should I do to apply for a bot status? I will at least tell something about the bot. It runs using pywikipedia, and takes the Dutch wikipedia and Flacus' warnfiles as a source to add interwiki-links to all pages it runs into. Currently it works on: en, nl, de, nds, nds-nl, li, af, is, da, no, nn, sv, fr, es, pt, gl, ca, it, la, fi, hu, pl, ru, lt, eo, io, ia, ie, id, he, zh and ja. It will only do unambigious edits unsupervised. More intrusive edits (removals or ambiguities) are handled and checked manually by me. Thanks! [[:nl:User:Thijs!|Thijs!] 20:08, 1 август 2006 (UTC)
- I shall be honest with you. My comments are in sence that it was difficult to get an answer from you after running your bot. Also I am a little aware that there are many bots operating at bg.wikipedia (as you can se from my comment at MSBOT request). Of course my opinion is not omnipotent , so let us see what the rest of our comunity things. However at least for a week or two, please don't run your bot at our wikipedia. It is better to have a bot flag to do so. In any case, thanks for your reply. Kind regards, BloodIce 21:20, 1 август 2006 (UTC)
- Hello, I see there is some discussion about my bot. BloodIce already requested me to stop it temporarily, as I did. However, my knowledge of Bulgarian is restricted to the Cyrillic alphabet, so I cannot see what the above discussion is about. What should I do to apply for a bot status? I will at least tell something about the bot. It runs using pywikipedia, and takes the Dutch wikipedia and Flacus' warnfiles as a source to add interwiki-links to all pages it runs into. Currently it works on: en, nl, de, nds, nds-nl, li, af, is, da, no, nn, sv, fr, es, pt, gl, ca, it, la, fi, hu, pl, ru, lt, eo, io, ia, ie, id, he, zh and ja. It will only do unambigious edits unsupervised. More intrusive edits (removals or ambiguities) are handled and checked manually by me. Thanks! [[:nl:User:Thijs!|Thijs!] 20:08, 1 август 2006 (UTC)
- I think you have a point about the contacting issue. I am sorry, do not have to much spare time, and did not look for this page immediately after stopping the bot. The many-bots-arguments sounds nice, but seems to be void, because an extra bot does not push any more pressure on the wikipedia. Especially since my bot already runs on many wikipedia's, adding one more does not cause extra server load. In fact, a dedicated bot, running only on bg and a few other sites, is much less efficient. And I don't assume you will check every edit anyway, so I don't see exactly what the problem with another bot is. I join with your opinion to wait for the opinion of the rest of the community. Thijs!bot 00:11, 2 август 2006 (UTC)
- That is true - if the bot is already in other wikipedia's it will not be a pressure for anyone. And your bot is one of thouse. Excuse me, I didn't think of that prespective. That issue is solved . The other one with communication is also on a good base. Personally I have no objections against your bot. However we still have to wait for the opinions of some other editors. BloodIce 00:26, 2 август 2006 (UTC)
- If nobody objects, I will start using the bot on bg: shortly. Thijs!bot 10:24, 22 август 2006 (UTC)
- Before that, please ask for bot flag on Talk page of our Bureaucrat. BloodIce 10:36, 22 август 2006 (UTC)
- If nobody objects, I will start using the bot on bg: shortly. Thijs!bot 10:24, 22 август 2006 (UTC)
- Special:Contributions/Zyxwvut-Bot (no contributions, at the time of the request)
- Special:Contributions/Hégésippe Cormier (contributions of the bot master, mainly interwikis)
Responsible owner : Hégésippe Cormier aka Hégésippe (main account on FR)
This bot account would be used, if granted, to run interwikies, adding it manually, when commanded (after sense comparisons, when it's needed), sometimes after reading the Interwikilink-Checker, sometimes after reading the list of new pages on French Wikipedia.
- already used on (with bot status): fr + bs, cs, da, de, it, pl, sr, sv, vec.
- current bot flag requests, on: af, ast, bg, ca, es, fi, gl, id, lb, li, nl, oc, pt, ro, ru, scn, sk, sl, tr.
Hégésippe | ±Θ± (botmaster) 02:52, 6 август 2006 (UTC)
За бот флаг
[редактиране на кода]- --Петко 16:25, 13 август 2006 (UTC)
- За Спас Колев 09:35, 15 август 2006 (UTC)
- За. От всички бот-оператори (без нашите си, де), този подхожда най-възпитано. Допълнителна червена точка в актива му са дребните пояснителни страници във френската секция - явно се интересува от България и май хваща по мъничко от нашенски. -- Златко ± (беседа) 11:54, 22 август 2006 (UTC)
- За. Още един ентусиаст за каузата. BloodIce 18:32, 22 август 2006 (UTC)
Please for bot flag for my bot. It's interwiki bot working on cs:, his main domain is human assisted problematical interwiki and interwiki for same names of articles (this operation is working on about 40 languages at same time, but maximal 10 pages per day).
Sometimes this bot do standard interwiki addiction, but only in the languages with bot flag.
Bot is based on pywikipedia. Already with bot status: cs, eo, sl, pl, de, sr, hr, da, en, el, es, it, sk, sh... Awaiting for bot: fi, pt, bn, ...
JAnDbot 07:25, 4 септември 2006 (UTC) / JAn
Въздържам се за момента.Коментари на английски, за да разбере операторът на бота:- I would like to know more how the bot is going to handle those inter-wiki fixes, as this is the most problematic aspect of bot operations, and I personally have some compains how the bots are messing up the problem further. -- Златко ± (беседа) 15:44, 26 септември 2006 (UTC)
- След обяснението променям гласа си на За! -- Златко ± (беседа) 18:08, 2 декември 2006 (UTC)
Discussion
[редактиране на кода]Re:Златко:
Solving problematic interwiki means, that bot find all links from this page to another language, in taht languages find next links etc.. If link is to another namespace, bot will ask me, if it may follow this link. In the end, bot will write me list of all found pages in some language and all links from anothr langs which directs to this page. eg:
(1) Found link to bs:Saruman in: en:Saruman (2) Found link to bs:Melkor in: cs:Morgoth en:Morgoth
or
(1) Found link to he:שר הטבעות - דמויות in: en:List of Middle-earth peoples he:סארומן (2) Found link to he:מורגות' in: bs:Melkor cs:Morgoth da:Morgoth en:Morgoth gl:Melkor
Now I must select one (or none) of these links for every language. I usually select the link, which has most links from correct word. Usually only one or two langs have bad links or one from langs is redirect to another article (with another interwiki). (In the examples above was german article redirect to list). Sometimes, of cource I must give up solving, because I'm not able to choose correct article (articles are too similar).
JAnDbot 08:52, 30 октомври 2006 (UTC)
Thank you very much Jan, I am completely satisfied! It would be nice if we had more manually controlled link resolutions instead of script-kiddies. -- Златко ± (беседа) 18:08, 2 декември 2006 (UTC)
I'd like to request bot status for User:Erwin85Bot. I'm an active user and sysop on nl: and I'll work on adding interwiki's on nds-nl:. However to minimize the server load I'd like to add backlinks from other wikipedia's to nds-nl as well. So other bots don't have to load the same pages again. The bot will always run manually assisted. In cases where I don't know what interwiki to use, I will simply give up. A list of current requests and approvals can be found on meta:User:Erwin85/Bot. --Erwin85 20:42, 19 септември 2006 (UTC)
- Аз съм За. —Борислав 15:06, 26 септември 2006 (UTC)
- I do not understand the need for permission on bg.wiki if the bot is going to add on nds-nl . Is it going to add there or from there? Anyways given the intention to run always in manually assisted mode - аз също съм За. -- Златко ± (беседа) 15:39, 26 септември 2006 (UTC)
- I want to start on nds-nl so it will add interwiki's to that project. However if this project doesn't have all the links that I find, I want to add those to bg as well. In example if I add a link to bg on nds-nl I want to add nds-nl to bg and if bg doesn't link to x I want to add a link to x on bg. I hope this made it somewhat clearer. --Erwin85 17:43, 26 септември 2006 (UTC)
I request a bot flag for my bot. I (fr:User:Sebcaen) come from french wikipedia and I'm a sysop there. The bot is made for interwiki's link, specially on sport domain. It run every day, manually assisted. As you can see on my page, you can contact me on my french page. Thank you for support me. Botz 21:16, 29 септември 2006 (UTC)